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Issue with Kibaka and BROOD
« on: April 12, 2006, 07:13:42 PM »
From: "talsik2004" 
Date: Tue Apr 11, 2006  10:21 am
Subject: EXPOSE (Talsik Member's Scam?)
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This warning has been posted by KIBAKA on their Web site, so in the
interest of fairness, I'm giving David (of Brood) an opporutnity to
respond. The evidence is pretty damning, so if we don't get a
compelling explanation, we will act accordingly (including expulsion
and disassociation).
 
http://www.kibaka.org/MahalagangBabala.htm
 
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Re: Issue with Kibaka and BROOD
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2006, 11:29:18 PM »
I have banned the poster of the above information not because of what he had posted but because of the orchestrated move to bring down what BROOD stands for.

This issue had been blown into proportions by both Ed de Borja of Kibaka and by Talsik.  Way back in 2004 we have engaged Kibaka on their 'Samahang Pang Kabuhayan'  Project or Livelihood Association.  After analysis their project BROOD had entered into an agreement that we will support their project entitled above and have requested for funding for this in the amount of Php15,000, we have also noted some flaws in the current format of organizing and running the association which includes raising of native chickens and native pigs.  We raised this issue because both these variety received a lukeward response from people whom I had surveyed if they will be asked to take care of one.

The native pig was rejected because it grows so slow and can only be ready for butchery after 1 year while the native chicken is prone to sickness.  We have also taken note of their aim to disperse the amount they will give to the 7 families which will initially form the association since if this will not be BROOD members initially they will have no accountability whatsoever for the project.  Thus in order to pursue this project we convince seven members from BROOD-Bulacan to be the project members for this.

The project will be raised at Roa Farm in Bonga, Menor, Bustos, Bulacan.  This project had been known to BROOD-Bulacan members and was in fact discussed with Mr. Neciforo Roa who also raised the same concern indicated above.  Since the requirement is that all project members should come from the same Barangay we thought that for the benefit of the Project we will just use the clubhouse as the place of residence for the 7 members namely: Michelle Samaniego, Honey Balmediano, Catherine Remulta, Kathrina Castro, Rodelio Adolfo, Mei Santiago and Rio Tagatac.  We also asked Sir Roa to ask the name of the Brgy. Captain and the school principal for the Barangay.  Our intention is to first make preparations for the project and insure its start before eventually involving the Principal and the captain, since we know how politics works here.

This is the reason why BROOD-Bulacan started Balik-Tanim headed by Secretary General, Librando Dorendez as posted in our website --> BALIK TANIM

It was however unfortunate that the funding we had received was below the requested amount of Php15,000 as only Php7,700 was given.  This posted a new problem as to how can we as an organization sustain the project and thus make it Sustainable.  Besides this Bulacan had also been hit by a big typhoon early 2005.

I, as Secretary General had communicated this to Sir Ed on April of 2005 and I have sent the Balik-Tanim pictures hoping to eventually continue the project but unfortunately the following had also led for the eventual shelving of the project and the fund being kept until things had been resolved:

  • The issue of members of members disciplinary action especially that of Ms. Honeylyn Balmediano and her scholarship grant and related leaving of members connected with her;
  • The temporary leave of Librando Dorendez, the Bulacan Secretary General
  • Restructuring and rehabilitation of BROOD Bulacan Chapter
  • All the seven members except Mei and Rodelio are not with contact with BROOD anymore.  Rio and Honey had been expelled while Cathy, Michelle and Kathrina are now working and cannot participate in organizational activities
  • Kibaka promised training for the organization regarding this project and orientation as well but they had not communicated nor fulfilled this

These were fully internal matters related to BROOD, however due to this event and the eventual imminent danger made by this posting to the org am disclosing this.  We, especially me as known to all members have no intention of scamming or defrauding anyone.  I had been very dedicated with this organization ever since and shall not allow the name of the org to be tarnished.  The fund intended for this project had been kept intact and can be remitted immediately.

The process taken by Kibaka to resolve this matter had not been very professional and very friendly.  Naturally the Principal will not know me in Bonga Menor since I am from Baliuag, Bulacan as they already know during all my communications.  There maybe some lapse in judgment in my part with the intention of fulfilling the intention of this project which in the end will be understood.  Unfortunately Kibaka had immediately made public such a warning without even consulting or informing me or the organization.  We were not allowed to confront the accusations and be able to defend and ifnrom them of what happened.  If they want they should have visited or called me in the first place.  You know me... I will not tarnish the good name of BROOD and every Ryodan just for a meager amount of Php7,700 which I can easily earn.

Thus, we demand in highest priority that Kibaka remove such warning and in BROOD's part we shall return the sponsorship that had been given since we will not be able to accomplish this project anymore due to the inherent limitations of their project.

Also due to this event we also disassociate ourselves from Kibaka and Talsik.

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Re: Issue with Kibaka and BROOD
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2006, 09:19:51 AM »
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This issue had been blown into proportions by both Ed de Borja of Kibaka and by Talsik.  Way back in 2004 we have engaged Kibaka on their 'Samahang Pang Kabuhayan'  Project or Livelihood Association.  After analysis their project BROOD had entered into an agreement that we will support their project entitled above and have requested for funding for this in the amount of Php15,000, we have also noted some flaws in the current format of organizing and running the association which includes raising of native chickens and native pigs.  We raised this issue because both these variety received a lukeward response from people whom I had surveyed if they will be asked to take care of one.

---oo, kami din ay nagtatanong ukol sa pagpapalaki ng mga manok at native na baboy... nang aming sinabi ang budget para sa proyekto.. KAMI AY PINAGTAWANAN.   Bakit kamo?? sa panahon ngayon sinabi sa amin... pagkain pa lang ng baboy.,.. hindi na kasya ung pera... san daw kukuha ng pantustos??.  Ito ay aming sinabi kay Bigan Shen at aming napagalaman na sinabi niya ito sa KIBAKA ngunit hindi sila nakinig....

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We have also taken note of their aim to disperse the amount they will give to the 7 families which will initially form the association since if this will not be BROOD members initially they will have no accountability whatsoever for the project.  Thus in order to pursue this project we convince seven members from BROOD-Bulacan to be the project members for this.

--- Bago pa lang dumating ang sponsorship na binigay nila, kami ay pinulong ni Bigan Shen ukol sa proyekto ng Kibaka, kami nga ay natutuwa dahil may proyekto kami sa ukol sa hayupan, ngunit nang sabihin sa amin ni Shen na native baboy, kahit papaano kami ay nadismaya dahil sa panahon ngayon dito, wala nang nagaalaga ng baboy.... pero sabi nga namin.. KAYA NATIN ITO!   SInabi rin ni Shen sa amin na kailangan na iisang lugar ang pagbibigyan... un dapat sana ang mangyayari kaso napag alaman namin sa ibang taga Bustos na wag daw kami basta basta maglalabas ng pera dahil marami ang loko sa Bustos kaya habang kami ay nagpupulong pinag isipan namin itong mabuti.... Kung ibibigay namin sa 7 pamilya na hindi namin kilala, at walang patunguhan ang nasabing proyekto... hindi namin basta basta mababawi ang pera.. Kaya napagkaisahan namin na sa aming mga BROOD BULACAN MEMBERS magsimula (nagiging issue sa kanila na hindi taga Bustos ang mga taong nabanggit... may mga taga Bustos din, taga Baliuag).  Bubuo kami ng core group, kami magsismula, kapag lumaki kami naman ang magbibigay sa pamilya.  Pinagusapan din namin na kung hindi mag cliclick ang nasabing proyekto ay aming isosoli ang pera ng walang anumang pag-aalinlangan

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The project will be raised at Roa Farm in Bonga, Menor, Bustos, Bulacan.  This project had been known to BROOD-Bulacan members and was in fact discussed with Mr. Neciforo Roa who also raised the same concern indicated above.  Since the requirement is that all project members should come from the same Barangay we thought that for the benefit of the Project we will just use the clubhouse as the place of residence for the 7 members namely: Michelle Samaniego, Honey Balmediano, Catherine Remulta, Kathrina Castro, Rodelio Adolfo, Mei Santiago and Rio Tagatac.  We also asked Sir Roa to ask the name of the Brgy. Captain and the school principal for the Barangay.  Our intention is to first make preparations for the project and insure its start before eventually involving the Principal and the captain, since we know how politics works here.

Alam din ito ni Mr. Neciforo Roa, siya pa nga ang nag suggest at nagpahiram ng kanyang maliit na bukirin

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This is the reason why BROOD-Bulacan started Balik-Tanim headed by Secretary General, Librando Dorendez as posted in our website --> BALIK TANIM. 

Isa ako sa mga nagtanim at nakatikim ng aming itinanim.. binigyan ko pa nga ang aking mga kapitbahay ng buto na aming ginamit para sila ay makapagtanim dahil magandang tingnan na sa isang bakuran ay may mga tanim kang gulay

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    * The temporary leave of Librando Dorendez, the Bulacan Secretary General

ito ay aming inayos dahil may problema siya ukol sa kanilang pamilya

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    * Kibaka promised training for the organization regarding this project and orientation as well but they had not communicated nor fulfilled this

Ito ay aking natatandaan, nung una sa aming pagpupulong kami ay sinabihan ni Bigan Shen na sila ay pupunta dito para kami ay turuan

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It was however unfortunate that the funding we had received was below the requested amount of Php15,000 as only Php7,700 was given.  This posted a new problem as to how can we as an organization sustain the project and thus make it Sustainable.  Besides this Bulacan had also been hit by a big typhoon early 2005.

Ang aming itinamin ay nasira din  :(

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These were fully internal matters related to BROOD, however due to this event and the eventual imminent danger made by this posting to the org am disclosing this.  We, especially me as known to all members have no intention of scamming or defrauding anyone.  I had been very dedicated with this organization ever since and shall not allow the name of the org to be tarnished.  The fund intended for this project had been kept intact and can be remitted immediately.

Hanggang ngayon nakatago ang pera at alam namin na maari itong bawiin at iyon dapat ang mangyari.  Isa lang ang masasabi ko sa mga taong MAPANGHUSGA na HINDI MUNA INAALAM ANG TOTOONG NANGYARI... HUWAG NINYO KAMING HUSGAHAN NA AYON LAMANG SA NAKITA NINYO AT NAPAG ALAMAN.... GINAWA NAMIN ANG PROYEKTO UKOL SA SINASABI NINYO NGUNIT MAPAGBIRO TALAGA ANG TADHANA... HINDI ITO NANGYARI PERO HINDI KAMI NAGSISISI AT WALA KAMING PINAGSISIHAN.  KAILANMAN WALA KAMING NILOKONG TAO O ORGANISASYON NA SINASABI NG KIBAKA.  Mabuti pa nga ito dahil ISOSOLI NAMIN ANG PERA NG WALANG pag-aalinlangan DAHIL kahit papaano naghirap din kami, kung sa iba un... PUSTAHAN TAYO.. HINDI NA NINYO ITO MAKIKITA KAILANMAN... at isa pa... kung tlaaga kami ay NANLOLOKO NG TAO.. dapat nung una pa may record na kami pero wala dba, nagkataon lng ito.

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Thus, we demand in highest priority that Kibaka remove such warning and in BROOD's part we shall return the sponsorship that had been given since we will not be able to accomplish this project anymore due to the inherent limitations of their project.

kami din ay umaapila na tanggalin ninyo ang warning na iyon dahl WALA KAMING GINAGAWANG ANOMALYA
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Re: Issue with Kibaka and BROOD
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2006, 01:44:01 PM »
Today, we have sent the fund back to Ed De Borja of Kibaka.  It was unfotunate that this project did not success and it was more unfortunate that we had been blamed and given names.  Nevertheless let us learn from thsi experience and handle future dealings with utmost care and vigilance.

Attached is the receipt from Western Union/RCPI.

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Re: Issue with Kibaka and BROOD
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 01:39:41 PM »
Despite our repeated diplomatical approach to the resolution of this issue and the reurn of the money to Kibaka, I was e-mailed that the money which we had transferred is being asked to be returned to us.  Well since this is not our money but of Kibaka and was sent by Ed de Borja, we will not be accepting the return anymore.

Here is the e-mail message:

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From:   "Kibaka Canada"   View Contact Details View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert
To:   "'Dave D'Angelo'"
Subject:   April 18, 2006 - Notice of letter "Return to Sender"
Date:   Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:34:23 -0400

Dear Mr. David D. D’Angelo,


We would like to inform you that we have sent a letter to WESTERN UNION for the return of the money you sent ED DE BORJA for refund to you. We have been advised by them to let you know that you can go back to refund the funds on the Western Union Branch there, where you sent the money. Attached is a copy of Mr. Ed de Borja’s letter addressed to Western Union.

We have made closure of this incident and we advise you to desist from pressing anymore with your reasons and excuses that only creates more problems on your credibility. Otherwise, we will be force to print in our website: www.kibaka.org the series of Emails that you have sent us that will show the lies that you are trying to justify with explanations which makes your claims more very clear to be all falsehood to readers. We hope that this will be the end of this topic.


ERIC AGONCILLO
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Founder-Webmaster, KIBAKA

I am posting it here because we all know how we are transparent in this organization and never in our organizational life that we did something wrong.  I am posting this for reference and knowledge of all our members and benefactors.  We maintain utmost integrity and honesty in this organization.

Attached also is Mr. de Borja's so called e-mail to Western Union to return the money to sender for which I do not understand his logic for doing so.

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